Legislature(2019 - 2020)ADAMS ROOM 519

02/27/2019 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:34:39 PM Start
01:35:48 PM Presentation: Fall 2018 Production Forecast
02:08:44 PM Presentation: Permitting Issues, & Status of Development on North Slope
03:06:58 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Fall 2018 Production Forecast by Maduabuchi TELECONFERENCED
Pascal Umekwe, PhD, Dept. of Natural Resources
+ Permitting Issues & Status of Development on the TELECONFERENCED
North Slope by Deputy Commissioner Sara Longan,
Dept. of Natural Resources
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 27, 2019                                                                                          
                         1:34 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:34:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                      
to order at 1:34 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Tammie Wilson, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Jennifer Johnston, Vice-Chair                                                                                    
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Gary Knopp                                                                                                       
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Kelly Merrick                                                                                                    
Representative Colleen Sullivan-Leonard                                                                                         
Representative Cathy Tilton                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Maduabuchi  Pascal  Umekwe,  Ph.D. and  Commercial  Analyst,                                                                    
Division of  Oil and Gas,  Department of  Natural Resources;                                                                    
Sara  Longan,  Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of  Natural                                                                    
Resources.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: FALL 2018 PRODUCTION FORECAST                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: PERMITTING ISSUES, & STATUS OF DEVELOPMENT ON                                                                     
NORTH SLOPE                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: FALL 2018 PRODUCTION FORECAST                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:35:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MADUABUCHI  PASCAL  UMEKWE,  PH.D. AND  COMMERCIAL  ANALYST,                                                                    
DIVISION  OF OIL  AND GAS,  DEPARTMENT OF  NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                    
(DNR), introduced himself. He shared  that he was trained as                                                                    
a  petroleum engineer  and economist.  He  intended to  talk                                                                    
about  the  fall 2018  production  forecast.  He provided  a                                                                    
PowerPoint   presentation  titled   "Fall  2018   Production                                                                    
Forecast"  dated  February  27,  2019  (copy  on  file).  He                                                                    
relayed  that  the   Division  of  Oil  and   Gas  had  been                                                                    
conducting  a production  forecast for  the state  since the                                                                    
fall  of 2016.  The  primary objective  was  to support  the                                                                    
revenue projection  work done by  the Department  of Revenue                                                                    
(DOR).  He noted  that the  information in  the presentation                                                                    
was  a result  of  work done  by a  team  of engineers  with                                                                    
support from the commissioner.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:37:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  turned to slide  2 and addressed  a presentation                                                                    
outline. The first part of  the presentation included a high                                                                    
level  overview touching  on North  Slope projects  that had                                                                    
impacted production  in the past  several fiscal  years. The                                                                    
section showed  a comparison  between actual  production and                                                                    
the division's  forecast for the  fall of 2018. He  noted it                                                                    
was a  long-term 20-year outlook  for production  in Alaska.                                                                    
The second  part of the presentation  addressed the approach                                                                    
the division  had taken to generate  the forecast, including                                                                    
some  of the  efforts  taken to  improve  the near-term  and                                                                    
long-term results included in the presentation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe moved  to  slide 3  and  addressed a  comparison                                                                    
between   actual  production   the   fall  2018   production                                                                    
forecast. Actual production was  represented by the blue bar                                                                    
and the forecast was represented  by the red bar. He pointed                                                                    
out that the information was  from the month of July through                                                                    
November. He noted  that data outside those  months would be                                                                    
a  slightly different  comparison. He  highlighted that  the                                                                    
forecast and actual  numbers for the period  shown were very                                                                    
close. He highlighted that the  period shown included summer                                                                    
months  that  typically  had lower  production  because  the                                                                    
operators did  a lot of  work in  the summer and  there were                                                                    
inefficiencies  in  gas   compression  capabilities  in  the                                                                    
different fields.  The variance between the  forecast versus                                                                    
actual was about 15,000 barrels.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:39:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  advanced to  slide 4  and discussed  the overall                                                                    
perspective  for  the  North Slope  including  some  of  the                                                                    
projects  that  had impacted  production  in  the past  four                                                                    
fiscal  years.  He pointed  to  a  graph  on the  top  right                                                                    
showing  that production  had been  flat for  the past  four                                                                    
fiscal years.  He pointed  to a  more detailed  view showing                                                                    
change across some fields during  the past four years. In FY                                                                    
15 through FY 17 there  were two years of production growth,                                                                    
primarily  intensive work  carried out  by operators  on the                                                                    
different  fields.  Prudhoe  Bay  was the  largest  and  had                                                                    
numerous efficiency  gains during the  period. Additionally,                                                                    
operators  had conducted  rig work  and other  work to  keep                                                                    
production healthy in the Prudhoe Bay field.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  highlighted the Kuparuk  unit and  detailed that                                                                    
ConocoPhillips'  work on  the Sharks  Tooth development  and                                                                    
1H-NEWS development  was instrumental in  maintaining steady                                                                    
production growth. He reported  that the CD5 development had                                                                    
been beneficial  for the  Colville River  and ConocoPhillips                                                                    
was   looking  into   doing  a   second  expansion   of  the                                                                    
development. He moved west to  the Greater Mooses Tooth unit                                                                    
(GMT1)  and  detailed  that  much work  had  gone  into  the                                                                    
development that  had its  first production  in the  fall of                                                                    
2018.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  discussed future  projects  (at  the bottom  of                                                                    
slide 4)  including the CD5  expansion, GMT2,  and Hilcorp's                                                                    
Milne Point Moose  Pad. Farther out in  the future, projects                                                                    
that would  impact the state's  overall production  would be                                                                    
exciting discoveries  like Pikka and Willow.  He highlighted                                                                    
that old discoveries like Liberty were now moving forward.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:42:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  addressed  the 20-year  production  outlook  on                                                                    
slide 5.  The blue section  of the graph  represented legacy                                                                    
production from Prudhoe Bay, Kuparuk,  and some of the other                                                                    
fields  currently  producing;  the red  portion  represented                                                                    
production  expected to  be  online within  FY  19; and  the                                                                    
brown portion showed production  expected to be online after                                                                    
FY 19. The chart showed  that legacy production continued to                                                                    
be the  backbone of overall state  production, especially in                                                                    
the  near-term. He  noted  that  five to  six  years in  the                                                                    
future, projects expected to come  online beyond FY 19 would                                                                    
play  an increasingly  important role  (e.g. Pikka,  Willow,                                                                    
and GMT2).                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  looked at slide  5 and surmised  that even                                                                    
with  the   future  projects,   the  long-term   future  for                                                                    
production was  a gradual  decline. He asked  if all  of the                                                                    
potentially feasible  future projects were reflected  in the                                                                    
tan area of the graph.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  replied  that  all of  the  projects  that  DNR                                                                    
considered  as  discoveries   where  companies  were  moving                                                                    
forward  were included  in the  tan  area of  the graph.  He                                                                    
noted that  the tan area  represented the mean case  and not                                                                    
the   best  case   scenario.  There   were  outcomes   where                                                                    
production could  be higher. He pointed  out that subsequent                                                                    
slides showed a  range around the number.  He confirmed that                                                                    
the potentially  feasible future projects were  reflected in                                                                    
the tan area  of the graph. He explained  that legacy fields                                                                    
were still  very important and as  those naturally continued                                                                    
to decline,  the new  production would be  added on  top. He                                                                    
detailed that  if production from legacy  fields was 300,000                                                                    
barrels, the new production would  bring total production to                                                                    
about 500,000 barrels (as shown on the graph).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:45:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  referenced Mr. Umekwe's  earlier statement                                                                    
that production was typically less  in the summer months. He                                                                    
noted that  it was  not possible  to use  ice roads  as much                                                                    
along  with  other  factors.  He  wondered  whether  climate                                                                    
change would  mean there would  be less and  less productive                                                                    
time periods for Prudhoe Bay  due to the gradual increase in                                                                    
temperature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  answered that the reason  production declined in                                                                    
the summer  was for two key  reasons. First, at the  time it                                                                    
was most convenient and safest  to work. He detailed that if                                                                    
work that  may have  been done in  the winter  was scheduled                                                                    
for the  summer to increase  safety, production took  a hit.                                                                    
For some of the wells  that were aging and needed artificial                                                                    
methods to  continue production  - one  of the  main methods                                                                    
used on  the North  Slope was gas  lift. He  elaborated that                                                                    
the  ability to  compress  gas  to move  gas  to the  fields                                                                    
declined in the  summer period. As a  result, the production                                                                    
from the wells was reduced.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe advanced  to  slide  7 and  spoke  to fall  2018                                                                    
forecast  objectives.   The  primary  objective   for  every                                                                    
forecast was to  support the work DOR did  to generate state                                                                    
revenue projections.  The goal was to  improve the long-term                                                                    
accuracy  of the  forecast. For  every  field, the  division                                                                    
aimed  to ensure  its assumptions  were tuned  based on  the                                                                    
best available information it could  get from the operators.                                                                    
Also, the division  was working to improve  its forecast for                                                                    
the near-term  to ensure  the state was  working off  of the                                                                    
best possible information.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilson  asked about  the distinction  between near-                                                                    
term and long-term.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  answered  that the  near-term  represented  the                                                                    
current  fiscal  year (FY  19).  Key  drivers for  variation                                                                    
within  that  period  would  be   changes  in  the  way  the                                                                    
operators worked  with or handled  a field and  the schedule                                                                    
and work  a company  intended within  that fiscal  year. The                                                                    
division tried to ensure it  captured the production impacts                                                                    
that some of the activities would have.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  moved to  slide  8  and highlighted  the  three                                                                    
production categories  that enabled  the division  to handle                                                                    
the timing aspect and risks  involved in projects. The first                                                                    
category was  currently producing/legacy fields.  The second                                                                    
category was fields expected to  yield production within the                                                                    
current fiscal year. The third  category was fields expected                                                                    
to generate production beyond the current fiscal year.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:51:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Umekwe  advanced   to  slide   9  titled   "Production                                                                    
Categories: Addressing Uncertainty."  He discussed that most                                                                    
legacy fields  had long production histories  (some had been                                                                    
producing  for  decades);  therefore, engineers  within  the                                                                    
Division of Oil and Gas had  a good understanding of how the                                                                    
fields had behaved in the  past. The division stayed abreast                                                                    
on whatever was happening in a field as part of its day-to-                                                                     
day work managing production from  the fields. The knowledge                                                                    
was used to  generate forecasts for the  fields. He reported                                                                    
that what  the legacy  fields would  generate in  the future                                                                    
was  still slightly  uncertain; the  division tried  to hone                                                                    
its certainty  in generating  the outlook  for a  field like                                                                    
Prudhoe or Kuparuk.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Umekwe  addressed   the  projects   under  development                                                                    
category, which  included projects that were  expected to be                                                                    
done within the current fiscal  year (FY 19). There was more                                                                    
uncertainty with the category  because it pertained to wells                                                                    
that had  not yet been  drilled; there were times  the wells                                                                    
underperformed  or  overperformed  operators'  expectations.                                                                    
The third production category  included projects expected to                                                                    
yield  production  beyond  the  current  fiscal  year  (e.g.                                                                    
Pikka, Willow,  GMT2). There was much  more uncertainty when                                                                    
generating a forecast for projects under evaluation.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  highlighted  the financial  risk  and  economic                                                                    
thresholds the  projects would have  to meet in order  to be                                                                    
sanctioned. Other  uncertainties included the chance  of the                                                                    
project  occurring  in  the  10-year  forecast  window.  For                                                                    
example, the  Liberty project had  been known about  for the                                                                    
past  decade  or so,  but  for  one  reason or  another  the                                                                    
project  had  not  been  moved   forward  in  the  past.  He                                                                    
explained that those  were the kinds of  things the division                                                                    
considered  when  looking  at  any  new  project  discovered                                                                    
throughout  the state.  Additionally, there  was uncertainty                                                                    
around timing - the start  of sustained production. He noted                                                                    
that  producers often  moved the  start date  for a  project                                                                    
based on  logistical, seasonal, or  other reasons.  He added                                                                    
that there were times where  projects had come online sooner                                                                    
than anticipated. There was  also uncertainty around project                                                                    
performance  -  a  well could  overperform  or  underperform                                                                    
expectations.  The division  considered the  three areas  of                                                                    
risk for a project.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  explained  that  in  most  cases  the  division                                                                    
discounted the  peak rates provided by  operators because it                                                                    
was trying  to ensure that  the state planned its  short and                                                                    
long-term future based on the best information available.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:55:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe turned to slide  10 and discussed continued focus                                                                    
on  both  sort-term  and  long-term  forecast  accuracy.  He                                                                    
stated that a  secondary goal the division  aimed to achieve                                                                    
with the forecast  was to give the state  the clearest near-                                                                    
term  and  long-term production  outlook.  The  idea was  to                                                                    
ensure  the forecast  continued to  serve multiple  purposes                                                                    
including state budgeting and revenue projections.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  discussed  near-term  focus on  slide  11.  The                                                                    
division tried  to be  mindful of the  schedule of  work the                                                                    
operators  had  planned  for  the  near-term.  For  example,                                                                    
perhaps the operators were planning  work in the summer that                                                                    
would have a major impact on production.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe moved  to a chart titled  "Near-Term Focus: North                                                                    
Slope"  on  slide 12.  The  dots  on the  chart  represented                                                                    
actual production and the dashed  lines represented the high                                                                    
and low side  of future production outcomes.  The black line                                                                    
represented the  mean case.  He detailed  that based  on the                                                                    
division's work in the spring  of 2018, its forecast aligned                                                                    
well with actual  production. He pointed out  that the black                                                                    
line  and  two  broken   lines  represented  the  division's                                                                    
forecast  for the  fall of  2018;  some of  the points  were                                                                    
right on target and in  some cases actual production came in                                                                    
a bit higher or lower than the projection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson  referenced  Mr. Umekwe's  earlier  example                                                                    
about summer maintenance impacting  production. She asked if                                                                    
more  shutdowns  for  maintenance were  anticipated  in  the                                                                    
coming year.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe replied  that the data the  division had received                                                                    
from operators did not show  a significantly different scale                                                                    
of maintenance  or shutdowns in  the coming season  than had                                                                    
occurred  in the  past. He  highlighted  that the  preceding                                                                    
year  the Colville  River unit  had  major maintenance  that                                                                    
happened every five  years; the unit was expected  to run at                                                                    
full capacity for the coming year.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:58:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  moved to  slide 13 and  spoke about  a realistic                                                                    
long-term projection. He explained  that instead of taking a                                                                    
blanket  assumption on  every field,  the  division got  the                                                                    
best idea of what operators  expected for production for the                                                                    
different fields.  The division applied  industry techniques                                                                    
including the  decline curve analysis to  project production                                                                    
for   the  various   fields.  Instead   of  generating   one                                                                    
production outcome for a given  field, the division tried to                                                                    
acknowledge the  production uncertainties that  could impact                                                                    
even legacy  fields. The technique  was applied  to generate                                                                    
several  possible outcomes  for  every  field; the  outcomes                                                                    
were  combined to  come  up  with the  best  estimate for  a                                                                    
field. The purpose of the  method was to ensure the division                                                                    
generated a  long-term projection  that considered  the best                                                                    
available information operators could provide.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe turned  to a  chart slide  14 that  compared the                                                                    
long-term  projections  of   the  operators  with  long-term                                                                    
projections generated by  the Division of Oil  and Gas (2020                                                                    
through 2028). The high side  of DNR's forecast was shown in                                                                    
red and the low side was  shown in tan. The blue bars showed                                                                    
an  aggregate of  the operators'  outlook. The  chart showed                                                                    
that overall,  the operators' outlook fell  within the range                                                                    
DNR provided to DOR for its revenue projections.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:00:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe advanced  to slide 15 and addressed  the level of                                                                    
uncertainty for  the three  production categories.  Once the                                                                    
information  was  combined,  the  division came  up  with  a                                                                    
forecast  that   had  the  potential  to   be  significantly                                                                    
different  from the  mean projection.  The slide  included a                                                                    
chart  showing the  production forecast  range from  2014 to                                                                    
2028. The  black line showed  historical production  and the                                                                    
blue line going  into the future represented  the mean case.                                                                    
He  drew attention  to the  bars indicating  that production                                                                    
could  be  anywhere  within  the   range  shown  [the  chart                                                                    
indicated  an increasing  uncertainty (wider  range) in  the                                                                    
longer-term  forecast].  He  explained  that  if  everything                                                                    
aligned well,  there could be  a situation  where production                                                                    
significantly exceeded  the mean line up  to 700,000 barrels                                                                    
per day.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  showed  a  map  of  projects  under  evaluation                                                                    
(medium  and  long-term)  that DNR  had  considered  in  its                                                                    
forecast  (slide  16).  He  pointed out  that  most  of  the                                                                    
projects were located  within the central area  of the North                                                                    
Slope (some  were located  to the far  west such  as Liberty                                                                    
and some were  south). The yellow section of  the map showed                                                                    
federal government  interest lands. The blue  section showed                                                                    
mostly state  land and  the pink  reflected Native  land. He                                                                    
highlighted  that GMT1,  GMT2,  and Willow  fell within  the                                                                    
federal section on the map. He  noted that most of the other                                                                    
fields he  had discussed,  including Pikka, fell  within the                                                                    
state-owned land.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:03:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  showed a "North  Slope Oil Production"  chart on                                                                    
slide  17. The  chart depicted  a portfolio-scale  rollup of                                                                    
all of  the risks  DNR applied to  the projects.  He pointed                                                                    
out  that at  the  peak, the  projects  could yield  200,000                                                                    
barrels of oil  per day. He noted that as  time went on, DNR                                                                    
would  continue to  update the  information  as it  received                                                                    
more information  from operators about changes  in scope and                                                                    
start times. He reiterated his  earlier remarks that the new                                                                    
production would all  be layered on top of  a declining base                                                                    
of legacy  production. For that reason,  the 200,000 barrels                                                                    
were not being added to the current 500,000-plus barrels.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:04:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston asked  for verification that forecasting                                                                    
had  been  brought in-house  three  years  back. Mr.  Umekwe                                                                    
replied it had been in the fall of 2016.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Johnston  asked   for  verification   that  the                                                                    
forecast work currently done by  the Division of Oil and Gas                                                                    
had been contracted out as well.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe replied affirmatively.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Johnston asked if there  was a comparison between                                                                    
the in-house projections and the contractor projections.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  answered that  DNR had  the information  and had                                                                    
done some  analysis in  the past. He  offered to  update the                                                                    
information and make it available.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:05:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked how much price  variability impacted                                                                    
a  company's   willingness  or  unwillingness   to  increase                                                                    
production.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe answered  that the impact of  price on production                                                                    
depended   on  numerous   factors.  For   example,  normally                                                                    
companies  evaluated projects  based on  an update  in their                                                                    
price  outlook. While  the state's  oil  price forecast  may                                                                    
serve as a good medium for  companies to talk to each other,                                                                    
the  companies had  internal  price  outlooks. He  explained                                                                    
that  in most  cases the  state new  when changes  occurred,                                                                    
based on activities and other  factors in the news; however,                                                                    
companies  may  have a  different  timeline  - perhaps  they                                                                    
needed  to see  oil  prices significantly  down  for a  long                                                                    
period of  time prior to  updating the outlook  on different                                                                    
projects. He explained  that it depended on  the company. He                                                                    
furthered  that  some  companies   may  hedge  a  series  of                                                                    
production. Once  the price  of crude  was hedged,  based on                                                                    
the  contract  the  company  had   with  a  buyer,  it  made                                                                    
momentary changes  in oil pricing  material to  the specific                                                                    
company. He summarized  that it depended on  the company and                                                                    
their own  internal assessments,  but overall if  oil prices                                                                    
were  projected to  be low  or high,  companies updated  the                                                                    
outlook for their projects.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  returned to the production  range chart on                                                                    
slide  15.  He considered  the  best  case scenario  showing                                                                    
700,000 barrels  of oil per day  in 2028. He asked  how much                                                                    
price would  play in contributing  to the best  case outcome                                                                    
shown on the slide.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  answered that he  did not have an  exact number.                                                                    
He explained  that the forecast  generated by DNR  was based                                                                    
the  price projection  for the  state provided  by DOR.  The                                                                    
price projection had a range  around it and DNR's projection                                                                    
was directly  tied to the  range in the state's  outlook for                                                                    
oil prices.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  PERMITTING ISSUES,  & STATUS  OF DEVELOPMENT                                                                  
ON NORTH SLOPE                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:08:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SARA  LONGAN,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  NATURAL                                                                    
RESOURCES,   provided  a   PowerPoint  presentation   titled                                                                    
"Alaska  Department  of  Natural   Resources:  Oil  and  Gas                                                                    
Outlook  and Permitting"  dated February  27, 2019  (copy on                                                                    
file). She intended to provide  additional information on an                                                                    
oil and gas  outlook and share updates on the  status of the                                                                    
department's oil  and gas permitting programs.  She began on                                                                    
slide 2 and addressed the state's land base and ownership:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Land Base                                                                                                                  
        â?¢ 586,412 sq. miles?more than twice the size of                                                                     
          Texas                                                                                                                 
         Larger than all but 18 sovereign nations                                                                            
         More coastline than all other 49 states combined                                                                    
         More than 3 million lakes; half of world's                                                                          
          glaciers                                                                                                              
         Approximately 40% of the nation's freshwater                                                                        
          supply                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Land Ownership                                                                                                             
         Federal Land: more than 200 million acres                                                                           
         State Land: Approx. 100 million acres of uplands,                                                                   
          60 million acres of tidelands, shore lands, and                                                                       
          submerged lands, and 40,000 miles of coastline                                                                        
         Native Corporation Land: 44 million acres                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan advanced to slide 3 and provided a basic, high-                                                                      
level overview of the business conducted by DNR:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
         Secure lands and access from federal government                                                                     
         Identify minerals and oil and  gas prospectivity                                                                    
          via interest findings                                                                                                 
       Lease lands for exploration and development                                                                           
         Permit programs   to  ensure   conservation   of                                                                    
          resources and protection of state's lands and                                                                         
          interests                                                                                                             
         Manage production units  and  mines  to  protect                                                                    
          state's royalty interests                                                                                             
         Approve and  monitor  reclamation   and  closure                                                                    
          operation                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan   noted  that  the  department's   business  was                                                                    
continuous  and  often  cyclical. She  highlighted  that  in                                                                    
addition  to  Alaska's  large  size,   it  had  world  class                                                                    
resources. She  shared that  IHS Markit  recently classified                                                                    
Alaska's North  Slope basin as a  super-basin. She discussed                                                                    
oil and gas resource potential on slide 4:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     North Slope                                                                                                                
         More undiscovered, potentially  recoverable  oil                                                                    
          than any other Arctic nation                                                                                          
             o OIL: Est. 40 billion barrels of conventional                                                                     
               oil                                                                                                              
             o GAS: Est. over 200 trillion cubic feet of                                                                        
               conventional natural gas                                                                                         
         Untapped unconventional    resource   potential,                                                                    
          including  tens of  billions of  barrels of  heavy                                                                    
          oil, shale  oil, and viscous oil,  and hundreds of                                                                    
          trillions of  cubic feet of shale  gas, tight gas,                                                                    
          and gas hydrates                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Cook Inlet                                                                                                                 
        Significant undiscovered resources remain                                                                            
             o 19 trillion cubic feet of natural gas                                                                            
             o 600 million barrels of oil                                                                                       
             o 46 million barrels of natural gas liquids                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Compared to most basins, Alaska is relatively                                                                              
     underexplored, with 500 exploration wells on the North                                                                     
     Slope, compared to Wyoming's 19,000.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan advanced  to the oil and gas outlook  on slide 5.                                                                    
She reported that  the 2018 fall lease sale  brought the 3rd                                                                    
highest  number of  winning bids  since 1998.  A map  on the                                                                    
slide  showed  the  North Slope  and  leases  purchased  (in                                                                    
green) in the 2018 sale.  The sale included over $29 million                                                                    
in total bonus bids, the highest  bid per acre was $586, and                                                                    
over  243 acres  were leased.  The blue  portion of  the map                                                                    
displayed  the  state acreage  already  under  lease on  the                                                                    
North Slope.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:13:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan discussed  royalty rates on a state  map on slide                                                                    
7.  She began  with state  lands in  the middle  of the  map                                                                    
where the royalty  rates were 12.5 percent  or 16.67 percent                                                                    
and the state  received 83 to 100 percent  of the royalties.                                                                    
The Natural  Petroleum Reserve-Alaska (NPRA) on  the left of                                                                    
the map had royalty rates  of 12.5 percent or 16.67 percent.                                                                    
The  state received  50 percent  of  those royalties,  which                                                                    
were managed  by the Department  of Commerce,  Community and                                                                    
Economic  Development  (DCCED)  and made  available  to  the                                                                    
communities   within  the   NPR-A  through   DCCED's  impact                                                                    
mitigation grant fund.  She noted an error on  the slide and                                                                    
reiterated  that  50 percent  of  the  state royalties  went                                                                    
through the state mitigation fund.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan reviewed  the  Alaska  National Wildlife  Refuge                                                                    
(ANWR)  coastal plain  on the  right  of the  map where  the                                                                    
royalty rate  was 16.67  percent and  the state  received 50                                                                    
percent  of  the  royalties.   She  finished  with  offshore                                                                    
developments and  reported that from zero  to three nautical                                                                    
miles the state  received 100 percent of the  royalties at a                                                                    
rate of 16.67 percent. At a  distance of three to six miles,                                                                    
the state received a royalty rate of 20 percent.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:15:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Knopp  referenced the information on  slide 4                                                                    
specifying that  Alaska had  500 exploration  wells compared                                                                    
to  Wyoming's 19,000.  He  asked if  the  data pertained  to                                                                    
initial discovery  wells. He remarked  there were  many more                                                                    
wells as far as production injection.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan  replied  that  she would  follow  up  with  the                                                                    
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  answered that the  500 wells were  designated as                                                                    
exploration  wells and  drilled for  the purpose  of finding                                                                    
the resource.  In some cases,  the well would  be repurposed                                                                    
as a development well.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  advanced  to  slide 8  and  explained  a  graph                                                                    
reflecting  a  20-year  production  outlook  for  the  North                                                                    
Slope.   Legacy  fields   were  represented   in  blue   and                                                                    
production anticipated to come online  in FY 19 or later was                                                                    
shown in  orange. The graph  broke out the Pikka  and Willow                                                                    
projects separately in gray and yellow respectively.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  advanced to  a map  on slide  9 that  Willow and                                                                    
Pikka  developments.  He  shared  that the  next  couple  of                                                                    
slides showed the different revenue  outcomes as a result of                                                                    
the different project locations.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:17:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe turned  to  slide 10  and  addressed the  Willow                                                                    
development  (representing   a  success  case).   The  slide                                                                    
addressed  revenue  the  state  was  anticipating  from  the                                                                    
Willow  development. He  detailed that  generally the  state                                                                    
experts on production  taxes were housed within  DOR, but he                                                                    
would speak  briefly to  the issue. The  first chart  on the                                                                    
top  right  represented  the   revenues  the  project  would                                                                    
generate for  the state at a  flat price of $60  per barrel.                                                                    
He noted that  the figures would be  slightly different with                                                                    
inflation.  He detailed  there was  a slight  impact on  the                                                                    
state  in terms  of reduced  corporate income  taxes as  the                                                                    
company spent money to get the project online.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  moved to the chart  on the lower right  of slide                                                                    
10  showing  revenues the  project  would  generate for  the                                                                    
state at a  flat price of $75 per barrel.  He explained that                                                                    
in the  initial years as  a company  spent money to  get the                                                                    
project online,  because taxes were  estimated at  the total                                                                    
North  Slope level  all costs  and  revenues generated  from                                                                    
assets or developments for the  entire North Slope were part                                                                    
of the assessment conducted by  companies. In the absence of                                                                    
a project  like Willow, the  initial spending incurred  by a                                                                    
company  would  be  part  of the  overall  spending  it  was                                                                    
assessed on. He  explained it was the reason  there was more                                                                    
spending  with the  project  and  consequently, the  company                                                                    
paid slightly  lower taxes. However, going  into the future,                                                                    
the development yielded more revenues for the state.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:20:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  moved  to  slide 11  and  addressed  the  Pikka                                                                    
development (representing  a success  case). The  slide gave                                                                    
an example  of a  project carried out  by a  company without                                                                    
existing tax liability. He drew  attention to two bar charts                                                                    
on  the right  side of  the slide  and noted  that the  blue                                                                    
portion of the bars representing  royalties to the state had                                                                    
not  been  present in  the  previous  slide for  Willow.  He                                                                    
explained that the  project was located on  state lands, the                                                                    
operator  would  pay  royalties  to the  state  as  well  as                                                                    
production taxes.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe elaborated that the  first chart on the top right                                                                    
[of  slide 11]  represented the  revenues the  project would                                                                    
generate for  the state at a  flat price of $60  per barrel.                                                                    
He detailed that  while the company was spending  to get the                                                                    
project online,  the expenditure  was not shown  because the                                                                    
company  was experiencing  a  loss at  the  time (there  was                                                                    
spending,  but  no  production). Once  production  began  in                                                                    
2024, some of the losses  the company accumulated would help                                                                    
the  company reduce  its production  tax  liability for  the                                                                    
initial years; after those ran  out, the company would start                                                                    
paying more production taxes. He  noted that at the flat $60                                                                    
price, the company was a minimum taxpayer.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  explained that three  things could happen  for a                                                                    
company  developing  resources on  the  North  Slope: 1)  if                                                                    
assets were in production, there  could be a situation where                                                                    
the  company was  producing oil,  but it  was spending  much                                                                    
more than it  was producing; 2) if the  company was slightly                                                                    
profitable,  it  would be  a  minimum  taxpayer because  the                                                                    
state's tax system allowed the  state to get some revenue if                                                                    
the  gross  tax  was  higher  than the  net  tax;  3)  in  a                                                                    
situation where the net tax  was higher than the minimum tax                                                                    
and the companies would pay the net tax.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  moved to the chart  on the lower right  of slide                                                                    
11  showing  revenues the  project  would  generate for  the                                                                    
state  at a  flat price  of $75  per barrel.  He noted  that                                                                    
revenue  take  for  the  state was  much  higher  under  the                                                                    
scenario. He highlighted that it  was still the case that in                                                                    
initial years  the company was spending  without production,                                                                    
which would allow  the company to use some of  its losses to                                                                    
reduce the production tax liability  in the future. Overall,                                                                    
the project would  yield between $8 billion  and $13 billion                                                                    
for the state  (he noted a typo on the  slide in the revenue                                                                    
figures listed on the slide).                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:23:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe  turned  to  slide 12  and  reviewed  a  royalty                                                                    
analysis  broken out  by different  areas of  the state.  He                                                                    
pointed to  the royalty rate  of 16.67 percent in  the first                                                                    
row of the  first column related to a project  in the NPR-A.                                                                    
He explained that nothing went  to the state's General Fund;                                                                    
whatever the state received from  resources on federal land,                                                                    
50 percent went  to the impact mitigation  fund and whatever                                                                    
was spent on  grants and projects would be  available to the                                                                    
state.  The green  portion of  the  table showed  production                                                                    
from state  land. He  reported that  the state  received 100                                                                    
percent  of the  royalties generated  from that  production.                                                                    
The state  received a  share of  the royalties  generated on                                                                    
lands  that  were jointly  owned  by  the state  and  Native                                                                    
lands. He noted  that the state received 83  percent of two-                                                                    
thirds  of the  production from  Pikka. Offshore,  the state                                                                    
received 100  percent of the  royalty between zero  to three                                                                    
nautical miles; the state royalty  was 27 percent from three                                                                    
to  six  nautical  miles.  In ANWR  the  state  received  50                                                                    
percent of the royalties.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:25:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  asked why some royalty  rates were                                                                    
12.5 percent and others were 16.67 percent.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Umekwe replied  that when  lease sales  were organized,                                                                    
terms  and  conditions were  set  and  included things  like                                                                    
royalty rates, minimum  bids, and net profit  shares in some                                                                    
cases as  had been done  in the  past. When the  leases were                                                                    
issued, 12.5  percent and 16.67  percent had been  rates set                                                                    
by the state.  He believed there was a  statutory minimum of                                                                    
12.5 percent.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson   thought  it   had  to   do  with                                                                    
challenged fields, but he was  trying to understand why they                                                                    
were  seeing  more  fields  with a  royalty  rate  of  16.67                                                                    
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  answered that one  of the internal  analyses the                                                                    
Division of Oil and Gas had done  in the past was to look at                                                                    
the general  area of the  North Slope. He agreed  there were                                                                    
areas that DNR considered to  be more prospective, where the                                                                    
general rule of  thumb was to set the royalty  rate at 16.67                                                                    
percent.  He  explained  that  areas   that  were  far  from                                                                    
infrastructure and had no  evidence of successful commercial                                                                    
development would be offered at the lower royalty rate.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson believed  there  had  been a  12.5                                                                    
percent used in  1968 or 1969 when oil  development began in                                                                    
Alaska.  He   believed  those  rates  were   binding  unless                                                                    
revisited  through  mutual  agreement of  both  parties.  He                                                                    
asked  if  the state's  royalty  rate  was competitive  with                                                                    
rates  in  other states  (setting  aside  the difficulty  of                                                                    
exploring in Alaska).                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:28:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe  answered that he knew  of areas in the  Lower 48                                                                    
such as Texas, where royalty  rates were 20 percent or more.                                                                    
He pointed out that all  of those areas were privately owned                                                                    
so  it was  possible for  a private  landowner to  negotiate                                                                    
whatever royalty rates they  could. Additionally, the scope,                                                                    
scale, and  spending of those  projects were  different. All                                                                    
of  those  items were  considered  in  a transaction  before                                                                    
operators had access to acreage.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon pointed to  the Willow project on NPR-A                                                                    
land  [slide  12] with  an  Alaska  Native royalty  of  zero                                                                    
percent and a  federal royalty of 50 percent.  He asked what                                                                    
the mitigation impact fund royalty is and who received it.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Umekwe deferred the question to Ms. Longan.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan replied  that the  program  was administered  by                                                                    
DCCED. She  shared that  50 percent  of the  NPR-A royalties                                                                    
were received by the state  and were administered by through                                                                    
DCCED's  impact grant  program. There  was legislation  that                                                                    
dictated how the  funds were utilized. The first  use of the                                                                    
royalties  went to  communities within  the NPR-A  who could                                                                    
apply  through   the  DCCED  grant  program   for  qualified                                                                    
projects  to help  offset the  impacts  of development.  She                                                                    
elaborated that if those funds  were not used, the remaining                                                                    
funds went  to the school  trust and elsewhere.  She offered                                                                    
to provide general information from  DCCED on the mitigation                                                                    
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon asked if  the money remained within the                                                                    
state. Ms. Longan replied in the affirmative.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:31:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan advanced to slide  14 and addressed the status of                                                                    
development:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      2019 is expected to be the highest year in the last                                                                    
        20 years for exploration and production rig                                                                             
        activity.                                                                                                               
      Pikka, Mustang, and Placer finds  demonstrate great                                                                    
        potential.                                                                                                              
      New data suggests enormous potential in Nanushuk and                                                                   
        Torok formations.                                                                                                       
      Legacy fields including  Prudhoe  and Kuparuk  have                                                                    
        exceeded internal expectations through infield work.                                                                    
      Smaller companies,   like   Caelus,   BlueCrest   &                                                                    
        Armstrong, are engaging in exploration plans that                                                                       
        will help maximize TAPS throughput into the future.                                                                     
      New players, like  Oil  Search,  indicate  industry                                                                    
        acknowledgment of large, viable fields that were                                                                        
        unknown.                                                                                                                
      Continuous work   with  North   Slope  communities,                                                                    
        presidential   administration,   and   Congressional                                                                    
        delegation on  Arctic  energy  policy  and  decision                                                                    
        making that  support  responsible development  (ANWR                                                                    
        Coastal Plain, OCS, NPR-A)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan elaborated on the  second to last point and noted                                                                    
that  new  players,  like  Oil  Search,  indicated  industry                                                                    
acknowledgement   of   large,   viable  fields   that   were                                                                    
previously unknown or were not totally understood.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:32:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Sullivan-Leonard   considered   the   great                                                                    
potential  with  Pikka,  Mustang,   and  other  North  Slope                                                                    
fields. She  found it very  encouraging. She asked  how much                                                                    
oil   they  were   expecting  from   new  exploration.   She                                                                    
referenced  the   graphs  showing   a  gradual   decline  in                                                                    
production.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan  answered  that the  production  outlook  ranges                                                                    
provided  by   Mr.  Umekwe  had   been  determined   by  the                                                                    
department  and showed  what types  of  production would  be                                                                    
going into the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System (TAPS).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Sullivan-Leonard spoke  to the  decline. She                                                                    
stated the  decline was  not with  the new  companies coming                                                                    
onboard and  putting oil  into TAPS.  She asked  the decline                                                                    
pertained to the other companies.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan answered  that the projects the  division used to                                                                    
analyze  what the  production outlook  may be  based on  its                                                                    
assumptions and taking  multiple factors into consideration,                                                                    
there  was  always  the opportunity  for  new  companies  to                                                                    
acquire leases. She agreed, that  once new companies entered                                                                    
into exploration  to understand resource potential,  DNR did                                                                    
not  know what  the future  held. When  new players  came to                                                                    
Alaska  to lease  lands and  perform exploration  activities                                                                    
where   there  were   discoveries  and   resource  potential                                                                    
elsewhere, it  would help increase  the TAPS  throughput and                                                                    
would slightly  change the  production outlook  presented by                                                                    
Mr. Umekwe.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:34:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan moved to a map  on slide 15 showing the status of                                                                    
development.  She  noted the  busy  nature  of the  map  and                                                                    
stated it was indicative  of the significant activity taking                                                                    
place  across the  North Slope  by  multiple applicants  and                                                                    
companies. She  detailed that the information  was routinely                                                                    
updated by the Division of Oil  and Gas and was available on                                                                    
the department's  website. She briefly highlighted  two maps                                                                    
on slide 16 that were routinely updated by the department.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan  addressed updates on the  permitting process and                                                                    
status and  how DNR  was engaged in  oil and  gas permitting                                                                    
activities.  She  began  with  a description  of  the  basic                                                                    
anatomy of  a large-scale  development project on  slide 18.                                                                    
She noted that DNR's priority  continued to be to manage its                                                                    
permit programs  as efficiently as  possible to  shorten the                                                                    
time necessary  from appraisal to development.  She reviewed                                                                    
slide 18:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
    Statewide or   regional   impact   -   infrastructure                                                                    
     development, economic growth opportunities                                                                                 
    Generally [companies] require long term leases or                                                                        
     dedicated legal access such as easements in order to                                                                       
     obtain project financing                                                                                                   
  Lease/Unit Plan of Operations or Plan of Development                                                                       
    Shorter term land use permits are necessary for                                                                          
     construction                                                                                                               
    Material sales for development                                                                                           
    Water Authorizations for development and operations                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan shared  that there  were other  departments with                                                                    
jurisdiction over  the permitting  of oil and  gas projects.                                                                    
She  planned to  describe  how DNR  was  interacting in  the                                                                    
processes,  supporting other  departments as  they processed                                                                    
permits for oil and gas activities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:37:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan  shared an  example of a  success story  on slide                                                                    
19. She detailed  that over the past few  years the Division                                                                    
of  Oil  and  Gas  had   been  working  to  increase  permit                                                                    
efficiencies.  She pointed  to a  bar chart  and highlighted                                                                    
that in  2013 it had  taken an average  of 180 days  for the                                                                    
division to process permits. Over  time, gains had been made                                                                    
and in  2018 it  took approximately 30  days to  process the                                                                    
permits.  The division  had achieved  the accomplishment  by                                                                    
automating  and  modernizing  its systems  (e.g.  electronic                                                                    
applications).   The   division  maintained   a   continuous                                                                    
feedback  loop with  applicants to  understand where  things                                                                    
were  going  well  and  identify  future  efficiencies.  The                                                                    
department  recognized  that incomplete  applications  could                                                                    
cause  delays;  therefore,   the  division  was  proactively                                                                    
working  with applicants  to ensure  they understood  permit                                                                    
requirements. Additionally, updated  guidance documents were                                                                    
available online. There was currently no permit backlog.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan  reported there had been  some structural changes                                                                    
at the  department with  the goal of  maximizing the  use of                                                                    
its time and gaining  efficiencies. The department had moved                                                                    
the  previously  autonomous   State  Pipeline  Coordinator's                                                                    
Section underneath the  Division of Oil and  Gas. The change                                                                    
had  been made  to  increase efficiencies  and made  sharing                                                                    
knowledge and  working towards  similar goals  and timelines                                                                    
more cohesive between the groups.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:39:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan  advanced to slide  20 and reported that  DNR had                                                                    
learned  the importance  of  doing  business efficiently  in                                                                    
order   to   handle   the  routine   and   daily   workload.                                                                    
Additionally, it  was important to be  flexible, nimble, and                                                                    
ready for  an uptick in  activity. Over the past  two years,                                                                    
there  had been  more  federal activities  across the  North                                                                    
Slope than in the past.  She reviewed reasons for the change                                                                    
on slide 20:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Tax Act  Coastal Plain Activity                                                                                            
    BLM to administer an oil and gas leasing program in                                                                      
     the Coastal Plain of ANWR                                                                                                  
    Section 200001 PL 115-97 requires at least 2 lease                                                                       
     sales to be held by 2024                                                                                                   
    Each sale must offer 400,000 acres of highest                                                                            
     hydrocarbon potential, up to 2,000 surfaces acres of                                                                       
     Federal land to support production and support                                                                             
     facilities                                                                                                                 
    SOA Royalty 50%                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     NPR-A Activity                                                                                                             
    Oil and Gas Leasing                                                                                                      
    CPAI continued progress                                                                                                  
    CD-5 production                                                                                                          
    GMT-1 began production October 2018                                                                                      
    GMT-2 & Willow Development                                                                                               
    SOA Royalty 50% through NPR-A Impact Mitigation Grant                                                                    
     Program                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     SOA authorizes  water withdrawal, fish  habitat permits                                                                    
     for  activities  on  federal  lands  SOA  consultation,                                                                    
     shares  expertise   on  tundra  travel,   air  quality,                                                                    
     reclamation, etc.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan  elaborated that under  NPR-A there had  not been                                                                    
as much  of an uptick in  activity over the past  two years;                                                                    
it  was  more  of   a  progression  of  accomplishments  and                                                                    
activities over  the last several  years. She  reported that                                                                    
ConocoPhillips  continued  to  have great  success  and  had                                                                    
reached  significant  milestones including  production  from                                                                    
the CD5  project. She  added that  production from  the GMT1                                                                    
project  was  the  first production  from  a  federal  lease                                                                    
within the NPR-A. She shared  that the state had authorities                                                                    
that  were  triggered  on the  activities  taking  place  on                                                                    
federally managed  leases. For example, DNR  was authorizing                                                                    
water  withdrawals;  the Department  of  Fish  and Game  was                                                                    
processing  and  approving  fish habitat  permits;  and  the                                                                    
Department   of    Environmental   Conservation   maintained                                                                    
authorities  over  air  quality, water  quality,  and  solid                                                                    
waste  management. She  informed the  committee that  as the                                                                    
federal  agencies were  busier  responding to  an uptick  in                                                                    
activity, the state was busier managing the workload.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:41:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  had always been curious  about the                                                                    
rejection  of  a  permit application.  He  wondered  if  the                                                                    
reason  the  legislature did  not  hear  much about  it  was                                                                    
because  in order  to proceed  there would  have to  be some                                                                    
mitigation or  adjustment. For example,  he assumed  that if                                                                    
someone did  not obtain  a fish  habitat permit,  they would                                                                    
not merely stop  because it meant the project  would die. He                                                                    
thought  perhaps  someone   would  come  to  DNR   to  do  a                                                                    
workaround  of some  sort. He  asked for  an explanation  of                                                                    
something that had been rejected and then accepted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Longan  replied   that  the   scenario  described   by                                                                    
Representative  Josephson was  fairly common  throughout the                                                                    
state's permitting  process. She believed the  reason people                                                                    
did  not  commonly hear  about  permits  being rejected  was                                                                    
because the  process was iterative. She  used Representative                                                                    
Josephson's example  of a fish  habitat permit  and detailed                                                                    
that often times permit applications  may not be suitable or                                                                    
fish biologists and experts may  have an alternative project                                                                    
configuration  or  plan  to help  and  support  the  project                                                                    
applicant to  make adjustments, which may  have less impacts                                                                    
on anadromous  fish. There were  numerous examples  and most                                                                    
often, permit  applications as  received were  optimized and                                                                    
improved over  time, which was  the reason there was  such a                                                                    
high success rate in permit approvals.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan turned  to slide  21 and  described the  complex                                                                    
federal processes  including the length  of time it  took to                                                                    
obtain  an  oil and  gas  permit.  She hoped  to  adequately                                                                    
explain the reason  the length of time to obtain  an oil and                                                                    
gas  permit  depended. She  relayed  that  the timeline  for                                                                    
state permit  agencies was almost  always driven by  a major                                                                    
federal  authorization and  action.  The left  arrow on  the                                                                    
slide  described   the  various   stages  of   the  National                                                                    
Environmental  Policy Act  (NEPA),  which  was required  for                                                                    
almost  all  proposed oil  and  gas  activities. The  longer                                                                    
process  could  require  an environmental  impact  statement                                                                    
(EIS)  and   there  was  a   different  process   called  an                                                                    
environmental assessment (EA).                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan continued  that over the past year  NEPA had been                                                                    
working well in Alaska -  oil and gas permits were typically                                                                    
going through  a three-year NEPA timeline.  There were other                                                                    
examples where things where things  were delayed for various                                                                    
reasons  and NEPA's  process took  five or  more years.  She                                                                    
reported  that  federal  leadership  was  requiring  federal                                                                    
agencies to  conduct EIS,  the NEPA  review, in  a one-month                                                                    
timeframe, while  maintaining robust public  and stakeholder                                                                    
outreach.  Federal agencies  were requiring  and had  issued                                                                    
four major  projects including a  Donlin [mine]  project and                                                                    
GMT2 in a  joint record of decision (JROD).  She detailed it                                                                    
involved multiple  federal decisions  for a  single project,                                                                    
which  were combined  and issued  within a  joint record  of                                                                    
decision. She  stated it was  very important; it  should and                                                                    
probably had  translated into minimized risk  to the project                                                                    
applicant  (lessening  the  chance  of  conflicting  federal                                                                    
agency decisions).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan moved to the second  arrow from the left on slide                                                                    
21  showing  examples of  a  major  federal authorities  and                                                                    
required   review   processes    that   typically   happened                                                                    
concurrently throughout  the NEPA  process. She  noted there                                                                    
were  dozens  of  examples  that   were  not  included.  She                                                                    
highlighted the Army Corps of  Engineers 404 wetlands permit                                                                    
required under the  Clean Water Act anytime  fill was placed                                                                    
in U.S. waters. She shared that  the state was known for its                                                                    
robust, multi-layered permitting system.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan intended to highlight  the DNR permit process and                                                                    
the process  in several  other state agencies.  Some permits                                                                    
(e.g. the 404 permit)  were associated with requiring longer                                                                    
lead times.  For example, the State  Historical Preservation                                                                    
Office  (SHPO) was  responsible for  conduction the  Section                                                                    
106  review for  proposed projects,  which was  important to                                                                    
understand and minimize  risk or any impact  to cultural and                                                                    
historical resources.  She explained  it was a  good example                                                                    
of where  a state  had authority  to administer  the Section                                                                    
106  process,  but  it  also  had  to  comply  with  federal                                                                    
statutes  and  regulatory  guidelines. She  elucidated  that                                                                    
when a  state permitting program had  the federal compliance                                                                    
piece,  it increased  the level  of complexity  and in  some                                                                    
cases required more time for  departments to collaborate and                                                                    
coordinate with their federal counterparts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:47:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan  continued addressing  slide 21. She  shared that                                                                    
because DNR recognized that Section  106 was so important to                                                                    
the  overall  timeline  for  large  projects,  it  had  made                                                                    
another structural change for  the specific review for large                                                                    
projects. The department  had moved the work  into an office                                                                    
to ensure  the SHPO review  process was close  to leadership                                                                    
to   provide   support   throughout   the   operation.   She                                                                    
underscored that  DNR were not  experts at what  other state                                                                    
departments were doing  for oil and gas  permits. She shared                                                                    
that  DEC's  air quality  permit  could  be associated  with                                                                    
longer lead times.  She explained that DEC  had authority to                                                                    
administer    its   air    quality   permit    program   and                                                                    
authorizations thereunder,  but they  were also  required to                                                                    
comply with federal statute  and regulatory guidelines under                                                                    
the Clean  Air Act. She  relayed that data was  essential to                                                                    
inform  DEC of  how to  issue air  permits; data  collection                                                                    
could typically take one year or longer.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan shared  that  permit  agencies recognized  where                                                                    
review  processes  may  be  complex;  therefore,  they  were                                                                    
working  hard   from  a  leadership   and  staff   level  to                                                                    
communicate  consistently  between  DNR,  DEC,  and  DFG  to                                                                    
proactively troubleshoot any problems.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan  relayed that  while NEPA  and federal  and state                                                                    
authorizations   were  concurrently   moving  forward,   the                                                                    
project applicant  had to  work with  the local  borough and                                                                    
municipalities to  secure borough, city, and  tribal village                                                                    
plans.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson shared that  his office had learned                                                                    
that the draft EIS for the  Donlin Mine had a comment period                                                                    
of  about seven  months.  The Army  Corps  of Engineers  was                                                                    
offering  a 90-day  public comment  period for  the proposed                                                                    
Pebble  Mine  project.  He   highlighted  that  the  state's                                                                    
delegation including Senator Lisa  Murkowski and Senator Dan                                                                    
Sullivan had  stated that the  90-day period was  too short.                                                                    
He noted  that Bristol  Bay Native Association,  Bristol Bay                                                                    
Native  Corporation, and  Bristol  Bay Economic  Development                                                                    
Corporation had asked for a  longer comment period. He asked                                                                    
why the Army Corp had limited  the comment period to 90 days                                                                    
and why it had denied  requests to lengthen the timeline. He                                                                    
wondered why  the agency  gave seven  months for  Donlin and                                                                    
only three months for Pebble.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan  did not  know the  answer but  wanted to  try to                                                                    
help.  She reminded  the committee  that federal  government                                                                    
(Army Corps of  Engineers) had decided on the  length of the                                                                    
public comment  period for the proposed  Pebble project. She                                                                    
noted  that federal  agencies typically  made determinations                                                                    
based  on   how  robust   and  successful   the  stakeholder                                                                    
engagement  process was  throughout the  review period  from                                                                    
the point where land was  released and when exploration took                                                                    
place in advance  of a project approval for oil  and gas and                                                                    
mining  projects. She  explained  that if  the lead  federal                                                                    
agency  deemed  there  was sufficient  information  and  the                                                                    
process had  been robust  enough, it  was factored  into the                                                                    
decision to extend or not.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson stated that  one of the major mines                                                                    
that  most Alaskans  had  heard less  about  was the  Donlin                                                                    
project. He shared  that earlier in the day he  had met with                                                                    
four residents  of the Lower Kuskokwim  district who claimed                                                                    
the  current administration  was  not  being cooperative  in                                                                    
terms of  government to government  relations. He  noted the                                                                    
reference to  tribal village  plan on  slide 21.  He relayed                                                                    
that  the Lower  Kuskokwim residents  wanted some  assurance                                                                    
their concerns about subsistence  issues and related matters                                                                    
were heard.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:53:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan addressed the reference  to a tribal village plan                                                                    
on slide  21 and  explained that securing  the plan  was the                                                                    
responsibility of the project  applicant. She noted that she                                                                    
was  not   an  expert  in  the   terminology  referenced  by                                                                    
Representative  Josephson because  there was  no requirement                                                                    
for the  State of Alaska  to offer the formal  government to                                                                    
government  consultation required  by federal  law; however,                                                                    
DNR  and  the  state  maintained a  broader  public  comment                                                                    
opportunity  and stakeholder  outreach  and engagement.  She                                                                    
noted   it   was   an  important   responsibility   of   the                                                                    
department's and  the process  was iterative.  Often members                                                                    
of  the  public  or  people   living  in  rural  communities                                                                    
throughout  Alaska   and  perhaps  those  impacted   by  the                                                                    
proposed Donlin  project, learned more about  a project over                                                                    
time due  to its complexity.  She would share an  example of                                                                    
how the department  tried to break the process  down to make                                                                    
sure  the  affected  stakeholders and  public  were  keeping                                                                    
track and  able to voice  their concerns to DNR.  She stated                                                                    
that the process was ongoing.                                                                                                   
Co-Chair Wilson asked if there  was any point in the process                                                                    
where  the  state  was  more   stringent  than  the  federal                                                                    
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan  answered in the affirmative.  She detailed there                                                                    
was a  lot of  discretionary approval in  many of  the state                                                                    
authorizations  where the  state followed  very prescriptive                                                                    
regulation.  Alternatively,   she  used  the   fish  habitat                                                                    
example  and  relayed  that  if there  was  something  in  a                                                                    
proposed action or  project that needed to  be modified, the                                                                    
state  could  be  more prescriptive  by  catching  that  and                                                                    
wanting  to work  towards solutions.  She did  not know  the                                                                    
specific regulations  where the state was  more prescriptive                                                                    
than the  federal government.  The state  routinely examined                                                                    
the issue  and made  changes to  its regulatory  programs to                                                                    
make them  more or less  restrictive. The state  also worked                                                                    
for consistencies  - if the  state regulations  required one                                                                    
thing   and  the   federal  government   required  something                                                                    
completely different, it was an  iterative process where the                                                                    
state tried to be as consistent as possible.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:55:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson asked  whether it  added more  time to  get                                                                    
permits through.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan  replied  in the  negative.  She  detailed  that                                                                    
changes to  a regulation could  not and should not  impact a                                                                    
project  application that  had already  been submitted.  She                                                                    
had not witnessed  a time where a change had  added a permit                                                                    
delay.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilson thanked  the department  for its  increased                                                                    
efficiency and recalled that in  the past the permit process                                                                    
had been  far behind. She  was thankful that the  items were                                                                    
not all happening separately.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon believed the  EIS likely touched almost                                                                    
every permit.  He wondered  if it was  usually the  lead for                                                                    
the project. He  asked if many permits waited  for the final                                                                    
EIS before getting  into their process. He  noted that slide                                                                    
21  gave the  impression  that everything  was taking  place                                                                    
concurrently, but he did not believe that to be the case.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan agreed.  She emphasized that the  state could not                                                                    
issue  permits  until  the EIS  process  was  complete.  She                                                                    
explained  that the  process  configuration changed  through                                                                    
the EIS  process. The configuration  would be  optimized and                                                                    
modified  to reduce  environmental  impacts.  The state  was                                                                    
educating  itself and  working with  the public  and project                                                                    
applicant  to  understand what  the  NEPA  looked like.  She                                                                    
would describe the specific  actions momentarily. She stated                                                                    
it was imperative, because if  the department waited for the                                                                    
EIS to  go on for a  year without knowing much  about it, it                                                                    
started virtually from scratch when  it worked to review the                                                                    
state  permits.  The  state was  coordinating  to  make  the                                                                    
process  as  concurrent as  possible,  but  the state  would                                                                    
typically not  issue its major permits  until the completion                                                                    
of NEPA and the EIS.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:58:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Carpenter   lauded   the   department   for                                                                    
eliminating  the  permit  backlog.  He  wondered  where  the                                                                    
department recommended  that a new company  hoping to invest                                                                    
in Alaska begin in the process.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan replied  that the question pertained  to her next                                                                    
slide. She  had some  success stories to  share and  a well-                                                                    
executed  process in  Alaska.  She turned  to  slide 22  and                                                                    
shared   that  it   was  important   for   DNR  to   operate                                                                    
efficiently,  but it  was also  important to  understand the                                                                    
need  to strike  a  healthy  balance -  that  no matter  how                                                                    
efficient DNR was  operating, it was still  working to issue                                                                    
science informed decisions that  took public and stakeholder                                                                    
input into consideration, ultimately  to enable DNR to issue                                                                    
defensible permit  decisions. One of the  greatest tools DNR                                                                    
had seen utilized by the  public and private sector for over                                                                    
20  years   was  the  Office   of  Project   Management  and                                                                    
Permitting (OPMP).  She detailed  that OPMP  was established                                                                    
in the  1990s with the  advent of  the Fort Knox  Mine. They                                                                    
had recognized  there was  major federal  jurisdiction, that                                                                    
there  would  be numerous  state  permits  required, and  it                                                                    
would  make sense  to  have  a structure  in  place for  the                                                                    
federal,  state,  and  local   governments  to  be  able  to                                                                    
coordinate and operate things as concurrent as possible.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan  detailed  that  OPMP was  located  in  the  DNR                                                                    
commissioner's  office,  which  was unique  nationwide.  She                                                                    
believed  the  state  was  well  ahead  of  the  times.  She                                                                    
explained  that   it  had  been  a   voluntary  coordination                                                                    
services  - the  office was  run almost  exclusively off  of                                                                    
reimbursable  services. She  shared that  OPMP was  offering                                                                    
industry   a  one-stop   permit  coordination   approach  to                                                                    
minimize  the   regulatory  risk   of  things   not  running                                                                    
concurrently  or  off the  tracks.  The  office was  working                                                                    
daily to  ensure the process  was fair, predictable,  and on                                                                    
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Carpenter  clarified   that  his   previous                                                                    
question  was  based  on comments  and  discussions  in  the                                                                    
legislature and his past experience  in the military dealing                                                                    
with governments  and tribal governments outside  of Alaska.                                                                    
He observed  that the  Tribal Village Plan  was one  of many                                                                    
items in the process [slide  21]. He stated that because all                                                                    
emergencies were  local, all development was  also local. He                                                                    
asked if the state was  recommending that companies start at                                                                    
the  local level  to gain  buy in  from the  local community                                                                    
before starting the federal or state process.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Longan  replied   in   the   affirmative.  The   local                                                                    
governments  had to  wait for  NEPA  to finish  in order  to                                                                    
issue permits.  The companies with sights  on doing business                                                                    
in Alaska were  sophisticated and knew the  process; if they                                                                    
did  not know,  they were  reminded by  DNR and  most likely                                                                    
legislators  of  the  importance  of getting  boots  on  the                                                                    
ground and  working with local governments  and stakeholders                                                                    
to understand  how they wanted  to be incorporated  into the                                                                    
process. She was proud of  DNR's leadership over many years.                                                                    
She  explained that  in  order  for the  state  to help  aid                                                                    
communication, the  project applicant needed  to communicate                                                                    
with local residents and the  boroughs, and the state needed                                                                    
to maintain effective communication as well.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan continued that due  to high activity on the North                                                                    
Slope and  elsewhere in  the state,  DNR had  a longstanding                                                                    
memorandum  of understanding  (MOU)  with the  mayor of  the                                                                    
North Slope Borough. She was  pleased to report that new DNR                                                                    
leadership  was  working  on  updating  the  MOU.  The  work                                                                    
required teams to  work at the commissioner  to mayor level,                                                                    
there were  quarterly leadership  meetings, and  staff spoke                                                                    
monthly  or  on an  as  needed  basis  to ensure  they  were                                                                    
sharing  what   they  were  hearing  from   applicants.  The                                                                    
department  was  also  encouraging  the  private  sector  to                                                                    
maintain good communication at the local and state level.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Johnston referenced  Ms. Longan's  discussion of                                                                    
changes made  in Section 106.  She asked if Section  106 had                                                                    
been brought into "this" [OPMP] office.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan replied in the affirmative.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:04:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Longan relayed  that the next several  slides [slides 23                                                                    
through 25] to highlight the  complexity of the process. The                                                                    
slides  also addressed  where to  start. She  explained that                                                                    
OPMP maintained  coordination protocol  that allowed  DNR to                                                                    
communicate with  all branches of government  so the private                                                                    
sector  and  public  could  understand   who  they  need  to                                                                    
contact.  Slide 23  included  a list  of  the various  state                                                                    
departments that were often involved  with reviewing oil and                                                                    
gas permits. She noted there  were numerous departments with                                                                    
multiple  divisions  underneath;  the   same  was  true  for                                                                    
federal counterparts [slide 24].                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Longan turned  to a  state  agency coordination  bubble                                                                    
chart on  slide 25.  The slide was  intended show  that OPMP                                                                    
was  a  first  line  of  contact to  direct  people  to  the                                                                    
appropriate  agency.  The   office  also  communicated  with                                                                    
counterparts   throughout   federal,    state,   and   local                                                                    
government.  She  stressed   that  the  coordination  effort                                                                    
provided  by OPMP  was  a  value added  tool  that made  the                                                                    
complex  permitting framework  a bit  easier to  understand.                                                                    
She concluded  the presentation on  slide 26 with a  list of                                                                    
department staff  who had  contributed to  the presentation.                                                                    
She thanked the committee for its time.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster thanked  the  presenters  and reviewed  the                                                                    
schedule for the following day.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:06:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:06 p.m.                                                                                          

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HFIN - OG Permitting 2-27-19.pdf HFIN 2/27/2019 1:30:00 PM
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